Buying a classic motorcycle can open up a whole new world of biking – machines with none of the electronics or fancy fuel injection of modern bikes, and with the potential for many happy evenings of tinkering in the garage. But making sure you’re getting one with that is what it claims to be can be harder, thanks to the fact that the frame and engine numbers can be in some pretty unexpected locations.
On modern machines it’s usually a simple case of checking the headstock and the rear of the engine, so this guide will show the exact position of most bikes that now have ‘classic’ status, or in the case of mopeds, scooters, flat twins etc, an approximate position…
Depending on the bike, locations to look for the numbers are:
Using the image above and the following key, you should be able to look in the correct location for almost any model of classic motorcycle. The numbers correspond to the picture above, while the codes mean the following:
FS |
Frame number is stamped into the frame. |
FP |
Frame number stamped onto plate affixed to the frame. |
ES |
Engine number stamped into engine/crankcase. |
EP |
Engine number stamped onto plate affixed to the engine/crankcase |
As an example, 1FS-2ES shows that the frame number is stamped into the frame (FS) at position 1, and that the engine number is stamped into the crankcase (ES) on the nearside barrel at position 2. You will find variations in locations for some brands – BSA for instance has three possible frame number locations and one for the engine. The numbers represent the area to look – number 24 for instance is where the frame meets the top tube.
This is intended to be a guide for those who aren’t experts in each marque, but we do welcome any updates or additions – please drop us an email at enquiries@bikesocial.co.uk
AJS |
1FS-2ES |
AMBASSADOR |
1FS (nearside)-5ES-12EP (Primary chain case) |
ARIEL |
1FS-1FP-2ES |
ASPES |
1FS-1FP (125CC-3ES) OR NONE. |
BATAVUS |
1FS-19EP |
BENELLI |
1FS-1FP-1EP-3ES-15ES-18ES |
BETA |
4FS-3ES |
BMW |
1FS-1FP-7ES (Approx) by oil filler cap. |
BRIDGESTONE |
1FP- 4FP (top of shock mount)-18EP (near kick start) |
BSA |
1FS-8FS-14FS-2ES |
BULTACO |
1FS-7ES |
CARABELLA |
1FS-3ES |
CASAL |
1FS-1FP-3EP-9EP |
CCM |
1FS (Bottom) 2ES |
COSSACK |
1FS-1FP-2ES (Approx)-13ES-7ES |
COTTON |
1FS-11FS-21FS |
CZ |
1FP-7ES |
DMW |
1FS (nearside)-5ES-12EP (Primary chain case) |
D’NIEPR |
1FS-1FP-2ES (Approx) 13ES-7ES |
DOT |
1FS-5ES-9ES-12EP (primary chain case) |
DOUGLAS |
7ES (above barrel) |
DUCATI |
1FS-5ES-3ES |
EXCELSIOR |
8FS-13ES |
FANTIC |
4FS-7EP |
FRANCIS BARNETT |
1FS-7ES-2ES |
GARELLI |
1FP-3ES-7ES |
GILERA |
4FS-3ES |
GREEVES |
1FP-8FS-9ES-12EP (Primary chain case) |
HARLEY DAVIDSON |
1FS-9ES-23ES-2ES (Approx) Pre 1969 no frame numbers. |
HONDA |
1FP-1FS-7ES-16FP-3ES-7FP-15ES (Approx)-20ES (mini bike) |
HUSQVARNA |
1FS-13ES*- 3ES* (*Only visible with engine removed) |
HRD |
1FS-2ES (Approx) 20ES |
INDIAN |
1FP-1EP |
ITALJET |
1FS-9ES (Approx) |
JAWA |
1FP-1FS-3ES-7ES |
KAWASAKI |
1FP-1FS-3ES-7ES |
KTM |
1FS-1FP-7EP-7FP |
LAVERDA |
1FS-1FP or under tank on frame-10EP-3ES |
MONARK |
1FS (Various engines) |
MONTESA |
1FS-1FP-7ES-3ES |
MATCHLESS |
1FP-1FS-2ES-7ES |
MINSK |
1FS-1FP-2ES (Approx)-13ES-7ES |
MOTO GUZZI |
FS- 1FP -9ES-17FP (Approx) 22FP |
MORINI |
1FS-9FS-9ES |
MV |
1FS-1FP4FS |
MZ |
1FS-1FP- 17EP |
NORTON |
1FS-1FP-2ES (NVT 2FP-3ES) |
OSSA |
1FS-5E |
PARILLA |
1FS-7ES-12ES |
PUCH |
1FP-4ES (Approx)-3ES (Approx) |
PANTHER |
1FS-8FS-2ES |
PLANETA |
1FS-1FP-2ES (Approx)-13ES-7ES |
PUMA |
7FP-7EP |
ROYAL ENFIELD |
1FS-2ES |
SCOTT |
21FS (by radiator) 7ES-13ES (Approx) |
SUZUKI |
1FS-7ES-11FP-7EP-5ES |
SUNBEAM |
24FS-5 ES (Bottom) |
TRIUMPH |
1FS-1FP-8FS-2ES |
URAL |
1FS-1FP-2ES (Approx)-13ES-7ES |
VELOCETTE |
1FP (and top tube under tank) 7ES-13ES (Approx) |
VINCENT |
1FS-2ES (Approx)-20ES |
VESPA |
14FS-18ES (Approx) |
VILLIERS |
20FS-11FS-24FS-22FS-5ES (below barrel)-2ES-3ES |
YAMAHA |
1FS-7ES-3ES-9ES |
Bennetts Insurance for your classic bikes
Back in the old days if you wanted the benefits of classic bike insurance, like agreed valuation, events cover and salvage retention, you’d have needed a bike that was 30 years old. Not anymore. Bennetts insurance for classic bikes could offer all these benefits on newer modern classics, as well as vintage models.
Bennetts are a specialist in motorcycle insurance and have been trusted by riders for almost 90 years. We will search our panel of insurers for our best price for the Defaqto 5-star rated cover you need for your classic bike.
Bennetts Insurance for classic bike comes with: